Comments on: More on Longshore; Armed Forces Ticket Information http://www.calfootballfan.com/2007/12/05/more-on-longshore-armed-forces-ticket-information/ news, analysis, and everything else about the california golden bears Fri, 29 Aug 2008 01:25:38 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: cal fan http://www.calfootballfan.com/2007/12/05/more-on-longshore-armed-forces-ticket-information/#comment-71142 cal fan Wed, 12 Dec 2007 07:53:28 +0000 http://www.calfootballfan.com/2007/12/05/more-on-longshore-armed-forces-ticket-information/#comment-71142 Yeah, I heard that Tedford is going to start Nate. I question the call but then again I am not the coach and glad because it takes mental toughness to block all the ridicule that he faces. In response to Brent, where were you putting your money before Tedford? If it was the Holmoe era then you should have pulled your money then. I have a feeling that Cal will be victorious not because of the arm of Nate but because of short passes and receivers making plays and Juatin Forsett. I want to see a better future for the football program and like David said after the bowl game a lot of internal as well as external assessment will be needed from the coaches to the players. Cal does not have that winning tradition that other schools like USC, Michigan, Notre Dame (exclude this year), LSU and so on have. They can look into the past and pull from that strength where Cal really doesn't have that unless you track back to the 1940's and 50's. These teams can look into the past decade and 90's. We can't change the fact that we are playing in a bowl game and have the potential to get embarrassed. The best thing I can do as a Cal fan is support and go from there. I don't play, coach, direct the football program. In the end I want Cal to get better recruits and begin a consistent winning tradition. Yeah, I heard that Tedford is going to start Nate. I question the call but then again I am not the coach and glad because it takes mental toughness to block all the ridicule that he faces. In response to Brent, where were you putting your money before Tedford? If it was the Holmoe era then you should have pulled your money then. I have a feeling that Cal will be victorious not because of the arm of Nate but because of short passes and receivers making plays and Juatin Forsett. I want to see a better future for the football program and like David said after the bowl game a lot of internal as well as external assessment will be needed from the coaches to the players. Cal does not have that winning tradition that other schools like USC, Michigan, Notre Dame (exclude this year), LSU and so on have. They can look into the past and pull from that strength where Cal really doesn’t have that unless you track back to the 1940’s and 50’s. These teams can look into the past decade and 90’s.

We can’t change the fact that we are playing in a bowl game and have the potential to get embarrassed. The best thing I can do as a Cal fan is support and go from there. I don’t play, coach, direct the football program. In the end I want Cal to get better recruits and begin a consistent winning tradition.

]]> By: David http://www.calfootballfan.com/2007/12/05/more-on-longshore-armed-forces-ticket-information/#comment-71111 David Sat, 08 Dec 2007 17:11:35 +0000 http://www.calfootballfan.com/2007/12/05/more-on-longshore-armed-forces-ticket-information/#comment-71111 Brent, might as well consider what other organization you want to contribute; Tedford has already stated his intention to start the game with Longshore. I still think there are times (rare occasions) when it is better for a team to not accept a bowl bid, and this is one of them. So what if this sets a record of five consecutive bowls? I'd rather bypass this low-tier and possibly humiliating experience and have the team as a whole reflect on the season and emerge with better clarity and focus. The second half of the season needs to be assessed from within. Brent, might as well consider what other organization you want to contribute; Tedford has already stated his intention to start the game with Longshore.

I still think there are times (rare occasions) when it is better for a team to not accept a bowl bid, and this is one of them. So what if this sets a record of five consecutive bowls? I’d rather bypass this low-tier and possibly humiliating experience and have the team as a whole reflect on the season and emerge with better clarity and focus. The second half of the season needs to be assessed from within.

]]> By: Brent Robertson http://www.calfootballfan.com/2007/12/05/more-on-longshore-armed-forces-ticket-information/#comment-71107 Brent Robertson Sat, 08 Dec 2007 00:57:16 +0000 http://www.calfootballfan.com/2007/12/05/more-on-longshore-armed-forces-ticket-information/#comment-71107 I said this in another blog, but it is worth reposting here in light of the irrational support for Tedford. There is far too much undeserved appreciation for Tedford. A great coach can become a bad coach. The fact is that Tedford did an incredibly terrible job coaching this year. And he should be fiercely challenged for that. Especially his juvenile decision to let Nate ruin the season, much as he allowed Ayoob to less than two years ago. And I question the notion that Tedford ever was that great of a coach. He never led Cal to the heights that the team was capable of. With the amount of Talent present on the team, both this year and years past, he has been a colosal disaster. If he plays Longshore in the Armed Forces Bowl I’ll have no choice but to withdrawal my substantial donations to the program. Is thit really what we as a program and school want? I assure you I am not the only donor who has taken this stance. I said this in another blog, but it is worth reposting here in light of the irrational support for Tedford.

There is far too much undeserved appreciation for Tedford. A great coach can become a bad coach. The fact is that Tedford did an incredibly terrible job coaching this year. And he should be fiercely challenged for that. Especially his juvenile decision to let Nate ruin the season, much as he allowed Ayoob to less than two years ago.

And I question the notion that Tedford ever was that great of a coach. He never led Cal to the heights that the team was capable of. With the amount of Talent present on the team, both this year and years past, he has been a colosal disaster.

If he plays Longshore in the Armed Forces Bowl I’ll have no choice but to withdrawal my substantial donations to the program. Is thit really what we as a program and school want? I assure you I am not the only donor who has taken this stance.

]]> By: Jeff http://www.calfootballfan.com/2007/12/05/more-on-longshore-armed-forces-ticket-information/#comment-71105 Jeff Sat, 08 Dec 2007 00:39:55 +0000 http://www.calfootballfan.com/2007/12/05/more-on-longshore-armed-forces-ticket-information/#comment-71105 If you read the title of this article aloud, the first part of it sounds like what I've been finding myself yelling during the 4th quarter of recent Cal games. =P If you read the title of this article aloud, the first part of it sounds like what I’ve been finding myself yelling during the 4th quarter of recent Cal games. =P

]]> By: sittin' on dubs http://www.calfootballfan.com/2007/12/05/more-on-longshore-armed-forces-ticket-information/#comment-71104 sittin' on dubs Fri, 07 Dec 2007 22:54:55 +0000 http://www.calfootballfan.com/2007/12/05/more-on-longshore-armed-forces-ticket-information/#comment-71104 Anyone else notice that in certain pictures and angles Tim Tebow kinda looks like Joe Ayoob? Anyone else notice that in certain pictures and angles Tim Tebow kinda looks like Joe Ayoob?

]]> By: Kevin Palafox http://www.calfootballfan.com/2007/12/05/more-on-longshore-armed-forces-ticket-information/#comment-71098 Kevin Palafox Fri, 07 Dec 2007 07:34:19 +0000 http://www.calfootballfan.com/2007/12/05/more-on-longshore-armed-forces-ticket-information/#comment-71098 There are ton of fans that love Tedford and many fans who also have their doubts. I look at it this way, players get better with each game and so do coaches. Yes, Tedford has been at it already for a few years now and of course he should have out in Riley. There is no question about that. But, Tedford is still a good coach who is having the Bears moving in the right direction. A bright spot is that this is the first time Cal has gone to five consecutive bowl games. Also, Nate is not a bad quarterback. People were loving him until the UCLA game and I remember people crying they wanted him the Oregon State game. I agree with the last comment that the starting position for the the quarterback next year should be open and I feel it will be. The most hurtful thing about this year was not the fact that we went 1-6 the last part of the season, we lost to Stanford or that Tedford didn't play a quarterback. What hurt me was Cal's recruiting power. I know we lost some potential big game players who were looking at program that crumbled. However, maybe these players can look beyond that and into the foreseeable future but thats hard with teenagers. Lets not forget how horrible this Cal program was before Tedford. We had Mariuchi (can't spell his name) but he never proved consistency as we can see with the 49rs. Maybe a Rosebowl is not for us next year but don't count us out of it yet. True Bear fans believe and I personally feel when its all said and done Tedford will not only lead but also deliver. There are ton of fans that love Tedford and many fans who also have their doubts. I look at it this way, players get better with each game and so do coaches. Yes, Tedford has been at it already for a few years now and of course he should have out in Riley. There is no question about that. But, Tedford is still a good coach who is having the Bears moving in the right direction. A bright spot is that this is the first time Cal has gone to five consecutive bowl games. Also, Nate is not a bad quarterback. People were loving him until the UCLA game and I remember people crying they wanted him the Oregon State game. I agree with the last comment that the starting position for the the quarterback next year should be open and I feel it will be. The most hurtful thing about this year was not the fact that we went 1-6 the last part of the season, we lost to Stanford or that Tedford didn’t play a quarterback. What hurt me was Cal’s recruiting power. I know we lost some potential big game players who were looking at program that crumbled. However, maybe these players can look beyond that and into the foreseeable future but thats hard with teenagers. Lets not forget how horrible this Cal program was before Tedford. We had Mariuchi (can’t spell his name) but he never proved consistency as we can see with the 49rs. Maybe a Rosebowl is not for us next year but don’t count us out of it yet. True Bear fans believe and I personally feel when its all said and done Tedford will not only lead but also deliver.

]]> By: I KNOW WHAT TIME IT IS http://www.calfootballfan.com/2007/12/05/more-on-longshore-armed-forces-ticket-information/#comment-71093 I KNOW WHAT TIME IT IS Thu, 06 Dec 2007 23:38:25 +0000 http://www.calfootballfan.com/2007/12/05/more-on-longshore-armed-forces-ticket-information/#comment-71093 You're a fool if you think Tedford will ever own up for his mistakes, JC. Did he ever own up for his mistakes during 2005? No. Will he EVER own up for HIS mistakes this year? No. That is not JT's style. JT's style is to say, 'well we were two or three plays away from winning that one.' Or, 'gosh, Nate sure looked good out there aside from a few ints in the fourth.' The man has let his own ego run out of control, and five years of Cal fans falling at his feet hasn't helped at all. I have zero confidence in him coming clean on his mistakes this year. That just isn't what JT does. More likely than not we will see more of the same next year. If lucky, we will go 9-4 or 8-5. But if ANY OF YOU have any illusions about going to a Rose Bowl or, *gasp*, a national championship, it is time to put down the pipe filled with assorted illegal substances. Thankfully I am patient. When my suspicions of Tedford are eventually proven to be fact, I will be the first to TELL EVERYONE I TOLD YOU SO! You’re a fool if you think Tedford will ever own up for his mistakes, JC. Did he ever own up for his mistakes during 2005? No. Will he EVER own up for HIS mistakes this year? No.

That is not JT’s style. JT’s style is to say, ‘well we were two or three plays away from winning that one.’ Or, ‘gosh, Nate sure looked good out there aside from a few ints in the fourth.’

The man has let his own ego run out of control, and five years of Cal fans falling at his feet hasn’t helped at all. I have zero confidence in him coming clean on his mistakes this year. That just isn’t what JT does.

More likely than not we will see more of the same next year. If lucky, we will go 9-4 or 8-5. But if ANY OF YOU have any illusions about going to a Rose Bowl or, *gasp*, a national championship, it is time to put down the pipe filled with assorted illegal substances.

Thankfully I am patient. When my suspicions of Tedford are eventually proven to be fact, I will be the first to TELL EVERYONE I TOLD YOU SO!

]]> By: JC http://www.calfootballfan.com/2007/12/05/more-on-longshore-armed-forces-ticket-information/#comment-71090 JC Thu, 06 Dec 2007 21:07:03 +0000 http://www.calfootballfan.com/2007/12/05/more-on-longshore-armed-forces-ticket-information/#comment-71090 Regardless of the diagnosis, I think the thing that was overlooked, and I'm not sure how or why, is performance. It was obvious Nate was favoring that ankle, regardless of whether or not he said he felt pain. He's been throwing off his back foot ALOT since the injury and the result is a horrid TD-INT ratio. So, for the coach not to clarify with Nate or the Medical staff and to keep going with him is either a horrible lapse in judgment on JT's part or if his ego is in the way and playing Nate is his way of asserting his authority, it's an absolutely retarded move because you've just jeopardized the health of your QB . Whatever the reason, JT is definitely to blame and needs to start owning up to mistakes, rather than giving CAL fans and the media the run around. That is after all what the fans deserve!!! Regardless of the diagnosis, I think the thing that was overlooked, and I’m not sure how or why, is performance. It was obvious Nate was favoring that ankle, regardless of whether or not he said he felt pain. He’s been throwing off his back foot ALOT since the injury and the result is a horrid TD-INT ratio.

So, for the coach not to clarify with Nate or the Medical staff and to keep going with him is either a horrible lapse in judgment on JT’s part or if his ego is in the way and playing Nate is his way of asserting his authority, it’s an absolutely retarded move because you’ve just jeopardized the health of your QB .

Whatever the reason, JT is definitely to blame and needs to start owning up to mistakes, rather than giving CAL fans and the media the run around. That is after all what the fans deserve!!!

]]> By: el caballo http://www.calfootballfan.com/2007/12/05/more-on-longshore-armed-forces-ticket-information/#comment-71088 el caballo Thu, 06 Dec 2007 18:24:30 +0000 http://www.calfootballfan.com/2007/12/05/more-on-longshore-armed-forces-ticket-information/#comment-71088 The injury described is in fact more likely to be like a severe sprain than a broken bone. Typically these injuries do not require casts or surgery, (except for minor scoping). The injury described is in fact more likely to be like a severe sprain than a broken bone. Typically these injuries do not require casts or surgery, (except for minor scoping).

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